Would have been way happier if the Provincial NDP had been on the stick 21 months ago fighting the real foe the upc and their corrupt regime. This is a distraction from the NDP’s inaction.
I hear you but it feels too little too late. They had 89,000 potential members they could have leveraged into action post leadership. They had/have a corrupt and inept government running on things they didn’t campaign on.
Over the past year and a half I’ve written to individual MLA’s and party headquarters trying to get answers to basic questions- “why the cry wolf fundraising, where’s the money going, where’s the platform, what’s the plan.” Communicate with us FFS. Crickets.
Now the passion has faded for nearly every member I know.
I don’t think it’s too late. Campaign mode is always more interesting and they seem to be taking the stance that an election is coming. I haven’t picked up much similar but I do know one or two people who are adamant that it’ll be a snap election this fall.
I mean, they can take that position so long as everyone’s happy with them being principled opposition and not government. It would likely mean that another party will show up to try for the latter, though.
While it's easy and tempting for me to stand up and yell "Do more!" I realize there's been a lot going on behind the scenes. One thing that stands out recently is that Nenshi has dropped some of the party euphemisms and is being "more Nenshi".
Correct; the NDP has a public stance on Alberta remaining in Canada, though. As Jared Wesley pointed out, a great many more Albertans support the provincial party and not the federal.
I'm a member of both the provincial Alberta NDP, and the federal NDP. I voted for Tenille.
A lot of the commentary from folks have been how the federal party needs to be wary of how it positions its stances, based on their successful provincial parties.
But if you flip the thought process.....in the Orange Wave of 2011, with 105 MP, 1 single solitary MP came from Alberta and Saskatchewan.
In 2015, that number did go up to 4.
So what's the big gain for the federal party if they adopted Alberta or Sask NDP policy?
I can see why some might say that. I wouldn’t though. They’re their own beasts and have to deal with their own problems. I think the provincial parties are aware they might have to fight off the stink of anti-fossil fuel sentiment, and that’s just part of their problem.
In 2011 though, the ANDP was a caucus of two and no one thought they’d ever form govt; that’s not the case anymore so people will be paying attention. Maybe the ANDP can carry it anyway. Or they could collapse under the weight of federal attention and the Tories might grow. Might still end up with another UCP govt, but 🤷♀️
I didn’t pay an obsessive amount of attention to the race but some feedback I did hear was that McPherson seemed like “status quo” if “status quo” was basically Jagmeet Singh. I often felt like Singh was off in another world most of the time, so that wouldn’t have been any good.
I am willing to give Avi the slightest bit of leeway in thinking he might not go out of his way to sabotage the provincial party as the federal party leader in a way that he wasn’t much fussed about as an earnest member. It’s a one-time offer though.
Would have been way happier if the Provincial NDP had been on the stick 21 months ago fighting the real foe the upc and their corrupt regime. This is a distraction from the NDP’s inaction.
I feel like they’re gearing up lately. I have no idea what took them so long but they seem to have found some footing over the past two-three weeks.
I hear you but it feels too little too late. They had 89,000 potential members they could have leveraged into action post leadership. They had/have a corrupt and inept government running on things they didn’t campaign on.
Over the past year and a half I’ve written to individual MLA’s and party headquarters trying to get answers to basic questions- “why the cry wolf fundraising, where’s the money going, where’s the platform, what’s the plan.” Communicate with us FFS. Crickets.
Now the passion has faded for nearly every member I know.
That traction is now hugely up hill
I don’t think it’s too late. Campaign mode is always more interesting and they seem to be taking the stance that an election is coming. I haven’t picked up much similar but I do know one or two people who are adamant that it’ll be a snap election this fall.
From your lips…..
I was concerned about Rachel’s petro loyalties and I am also concerned about Nenshi’s.
Last year Jasper was on fire. Before that Fort Mac had its terrifying experience. Where next?
Bring back smokeless summers! Invest in petro alternatives!
I mean, they can take that position so long as everyone’s happy with them being principled opposition and not government. It would likely mean that another party will show up to try for the latter, though.
While it's easy and tempting for me to stand up and yell "Do more!" I realize there's been a lot going on behind the scenes. One thing that stands out recently is that Nenshi has dropped some of the party euphemisms and is being "more Nenshi".
I think we may be seeing a lot more purple soon.
I’ve been feeling this is as well. I’d love to have the back channel on what changed!
Unfortunately, this looks like SOP for the Nenshi Democratic Party.
As I understand it, he played as much a role in the selection of a Federal NDP leader as he did in the Lakuzick Canada campaign.
He wasn't even at the convention.
Standing only for becoming the Premier is standing for nothing.
Present alternatives other than Premier Smith is bad.
Give us something …
Correct; the NDP has a public stance on Alberta remaining in Canada, though. As Jared Wesley pointed out, a great many more Albertans support the provincial party and not the federal.
I'm a member of both the provincial Alberta NDP, and the federal NDP. I voted for Tenille.
A lot of the commentary from folks have been how the federal party needs to be wary of how it positions its stances, based on their successful provincial parties.
But if you flip the thought process.....in the Orange Wave of 2011, with 105 MP, 1 single solitary MP came from Alberta and Saskatchewan.
In 2015, that number did go up to 4.
So what's the big gain for the federal party if they adopted Alberta or Sask NDP policy?
I can see why some might say that. I wouldn’t though. They’re their own beasts and have to deal with their own problems. I think the provincial parties are aware they might have to fight off the stink of anti-fossil fuel sentiment, and that’s just part of their problem.
In 2011 though, the ANDP was a caucus of two and no one thought they’d ever form govt; that’s not the case anymore so people will be paying attention. Maybe the ANDP can carry it anyway. Or they could collapse under the weight of federal attention and the Tories might grow. Might still end up with another UCP govt, but 🤷♀️
I didn’t pay an obsessive amount of attention to the race but some feedback I did hear was that McPherson seemed like “status quo” if “status quo” was basically Jagmeet Singh. I often felt like Singh was off in another world most of the time, so that wouldn’t have been any good.
I am willing to give Avi the slightest bit of leeway in thinking he might not go out of his way to sabotage the provincial party as the federal party leader in a way that he wasn’t much fussed about as an earnest member. It’s a one-time offer though.